018 - Danielle (playing violin, managing hideaway 2025 deep dive)

00:00:00: For four days, three hundred souls lived inside a bubble of music and connection.

00:00:06: It was called the Jacob Collier Hideaway.

00:00:09: it was truly transformational experience A place where everyone embraced exploration openness and curiosity.

00:00:19: But what happens when you leave this bubble?

00:00:22: When your scattered back to your own corner?

00:00:26: For me, the experience was too meaningful to let it fade into a distant memory.

00:00:32: So this podcast is my anchor A space to share who you are Stories inspiration creative aspirations and struggles.

00:00:45: These are hideaway stories.

00:00:53: And To begin each episode I asked every guest to bring a song sound a jingle that is meaningful for them that inspired them.

00:01:04: And this is the sound for my next guest, Danielle!

00:01:30: Hi What Is This?

00:01:31: What Is The Sound?

00:01:32: So That's the violin breakdown in the song Baba O'Reilly by The Who.

00:01:39: I was eight years old when i first heard it on the radio at my mom's car and stopped her and said Mom what is that sound?

00:01:48: she said thats a violin And we actually went to the pawn shop that day because she was like, there's no way.

00:01:57: She is going to stick with us.

00:01:58: We bought this like sixty dollar violin and as I started playing a violin then i went on play for about twelve years.

00:02:05: Oh wow Okay so um Did you do it?

00:02:11: Like did you only play privately or also somewhere...I don't know in a band?

00:02:20: Yeah ,i will say my longevity never got particularly good.

00:02:24: Um, I tried.

00:02:26: I tried very hard and loved it.

00:02:28: Now i played for schools so did the school concerts And things...I ended up singing more than I played The violin.

00:02:35: But even now just listening to that clip back I got chills.

00:02:39: Just that sound was such a moment For me where I had never heard anything like It..and knew That is important To Me.

00:02:52: Also, was it really the instrument itself like?

00:02:57: The sound of the instrument or wasn't also then notes being played?

00:03:02: I think It started with the sound but as that song progresses toward the end when the violin really gets into what he Was able to the violinist was able to accomplish.

00:03:14: What's so striking?

00:03:15: first is this very calm and serenading and sort of hypnotic rhythm And any get to listen fervent pitch of just speed and talent in transition, I didn't think one instrument could do that.

00:03:31: And it opened up my eyes and brain explosion.

00:03:38: what you're able to accomplish as far as evoking emotion out the listener with a single instrument.

00:03:46: I think its very interesting because usually I'm not sure how to classify the who from genre probably rock, right?

00:03:59: And it's some bands do.

00:04:02: It...I know that there is sometimes even some classical elements in like a song from Deep Purple That has an whole overture of entire orchestra and so Sometimes they use.

00:04:18: but It's not very typical to have a violin solo in the rock song, right?

00:04:24: Right.

00:04:25: So was that also interesting for you or did it have any part of it?

00:04:31: because usually a violin... Usually let's say like this You will be introduced by at least pop music Like slow-pop music Or classical music.

00:04:46: Did they had an effect on rock music played with violins

00:04:50: Perhaps, so as cultured I'd like to think of myself now.

00:04:56: Uh...I was raised in a family that predominantly listened to classic rock- I hadn't even heard classical music until i started playing the violin at school.

00:05:05: and you know..as much as I've always loved rock music ,i have always thought about what it means for me to listen to as a collaboration You know?

00:05:13: It needed bass guitar,it need lead guitar,needed drums,it needed singer.

00:05:17: All these people were critical When I heard the violin and that, yeah.

00:05:22: My first thought was they don't... That guy doesn't need the rest of these people!

00:05:26: He's doing great by

00:05:27: himself.".

00:05:28: And um ...that really stuck out to me especially when then joining The Orchestra because you NEED every other violinist.

00:05:36: You need the cello ,you need the bass .You need the viola....and i think thats why maybe that song is stuck with so much As beautiful as the rest of the song, Baba O'Reilly is.

00:05:46: It really is a beautiful song for all of the instrumentals and the vocals are

00:05:50: great.".

00:05:51: It was kind that shining moment where it's like you can make the difference... One single player could be their complete difference in success or in emotion on this song.

00:06:07: And I think at the time when didn't realize they had these deep thoughts about it that I was pulled to it, you know.

00:06:14: It's very young but in hindsight yeah...it was certainly a moment of kind-of really understanding what people can accomplish when they really hone their craft.

00:06:28: It is very interesting because the violin ...is an melody instrument and you said he could have lived without the real emphasis on how great a violin, I always say cuts into your heart is when it's backed up with harmony.

00:06:59: I think a violin really own its own isn't as... It can be very beautiful but if has no harmonic emotional connection to like rest of emotional field, I always feel it's there is something missing.

00:07:20: You know?

00:07:21: I wonder we could test that!

00:07:24: See i don't have any skills with this sort of thing but you were a very skilled editor.

00:07:28: maybe if you ever get a minute...you could isolate the violin from that track for me and i can listen to it and then see if i felt the same.

00:07:37: yeah That's interesting.

00:07:38: Yeah We will do that experiment afterwards.

00:07:41: yeah

00:07:42: I would be happy too..I'm down I could be wrong.

00:07:45: Maybe it wouldn't need all the rest and i would be like, okay this whole time?

00:07:48: I thought differently And that's fine too you know happy to learn.

00:07:52: Yeah did you ever play this solo like Did You Learn It?

00:07:55: ?

00:07:56: I did not.

00:07:57: That was beyond my scope.

00:07:59: .I did get The Beginning section down when he starts But if you were To continue to listen its

00:08:06: uh...it

00:08:06: becomes extremely advanced.

00:08:10: yeah

00:08:12: Maybe, you know what?

00:08:13: maybe I'll pick it back up and see.

00:08:14: And make that my sort of bucket list thing.

00:08:18: Yeah It is...I think its probably exceptionally hard to play something.

00:08:25: The violin itself Is already a very hard instrument To learn right?

00:08:30: Its very fickle and sensitive.

00:08:34: You have really want it.

00:08:40: There are just so many notes in such small section Of string And you have to, and I'm left-handed.

00:08:47: The first thing they'll tell you in an orchestra is it doesn't matter we all play the same direction.

00:08:53: You can't one person go any opposite direction.

00:08:56: It's not like with a guitar where if your left handed person you could play a left handed guitar.

00:09:01: Um...you just have to suck it up and play at the way everyone else plays.

00:09:05: So was bit of challenge for me because i had reimagined everything upside down.

00:09:09: But as most things Right-handed, I have to kind of just adapt.

00:09:16: It's really not that big a deal.

00:09:17: But the violin it was a little challenge for me in my brain To kind of visualize it flipped.

00:09:23: So you already started playing left and then you changed it?

00:09:27: No i never started playing Left...I assumed That there might be again eight years old..i assumed like Of course There is gonna Be A left handed option.

00:09:37: There Is Not!

00:09:37: I've Never Heard Of One.

00:09:39: I'm Sure By.

00:09:41: There's probably left-handed violinists playing a left hand at these days.

00:09:45: Back then, there was one music shop where I lived called Pedrini's.

00:09:50: They sold all the sheet music All of the music books for all schools.

00:09:53: they serviced all instruments and you had one orchestra teacher who came three days away.

00:10:01: We were all playing the same.

00:10:03: So it is great experience certainly but i do wonder Actually, that's another thing.

00:10:08: See you're giving me so much to think about Philip.

00:10:10: I wonder if there are love-tended violinists out There now playing in the opposite direction.

00:10:13: That would be interesting Hmm.

00:10:16: Okay?

00:10:18: II did a Small internship like when you when i was in school About fifteen years old.

00:10:27: In Germany.

00:10:27: You have To do Like A Two Week Something Work Related Like What Try Out something That You might Be Interested in for The Future.

00:10:37: and Being the weird guy I was, I looked up a violin builder.

00:10:45: Someone who builds violins and there were... There wasn't like one woman violin-builder business And she did everything herself.

00:11:00: She built violins almost like didn't matter for her probably, but it gave me an insight on how crazy beautiful also this instrument is from a building perspective.

00:11:24: How to build because she told about which wood the best would buy.

00:11:30: and tree, like the year... I don't know how to say it in English.

00:11:40: We said year rings?

00:11:45: How distinct they are that there also always the same distance to each other.

00:11:53: and yeah It's so interesting how much you have to know which you don't appreciate when never built something like that or didn't even think about it.

00:12:05: So, It was very interesting to see an instrument and I saw most instruments after that in a different light.

00:12:14: so i'm happy to be part of the small internship

00:12:18: That's cool!

00:12:19: A very cool internship to select.

00:12:22: Yeah, and you just think about how these instruments like.

00:12:28: my uncle bought me a violin that he found at an estate.

00:12:32: An estate sale That is from Czechoslovakia.

00:12:35: back when Czechoslova I was still one country And to have some it's like you'd think about what escapes?

00:12:43: These countries, you know before Not that there was ever a time really before turmoil but and It lived it made its way to safety Before you know, the wars before the separation.

00:12:57: Before the renaming or the rezoning this violent existed in a place that doesn't exist anymore.

00:13:03: and

00:13:04: I have a

00:13:04: closet.

00:13:05: keep kept safe.

00:13:08: but i've thought about having it restored-I had very conflicted emotions about that because It made out alive In The State That Its In.

00:13:17: And I think... I kind of love that About It.

00:13:21: But to play it, I would definitely have to have it restored and have it restrung obviously.

00:13:26: but It's still the original bow so that horse hair now is very brittle.

00:13:31: More to come on that all i guess when i hopefully see you soon.

00:13:35: Um, I can let you know what?

00:13:37: I've decided but I do have it And it's definitely um You know the way the instruments Continue to be such a big part of history has always been so fascinating to me.

00:13:49: Yeah I was just thinking about even... Now, now reminded of what all she talked like how particular it is to build this instrument and we call the F-holds.

00:14:08: Like How important It Is To Have Them On A Pesticular Spot And How It Changes The Tombra Depending Where You Put Them And How Wide And How Big All Of These Things.

00:14:21: In Germany, we call it the bridge.

00:14:27: The thing that stands... That holds the strings?

00:14:36: She let me build just a test-thing like just the bridge and she showed me I don't know It took more than one day for me to really put How do you say the bottom of the bridge?

00:14:55: The bridge.

00:14:56: That

00:14:56: it's really perfectly, like perfect-perfectly on the wood of the violin because if you just have a tiny mini gap and its not perfectly aligned then basically destroys the entire sound off the violin Like stuff like that!

00:15:13: It is so interesting to...to have that knowledge.

00:15:18: Yeah, or the strings could collapse if you put pressure in the wrong place that the bridge isn't perfectly placed.

00:15:25: So thank-you for reminding me how beautiful the violin is.

00:15:31: I really like the instrument.

00:15:32: You also said your singing?

00:15:35: I did and then a little bit more...I'm not gonna say it certainly wasn't professional but i do some gigs with bands Through the school because I was part of the competition choirs.

00:15:51: I was able to sing at Chapman University, which probably is no relevance.

00:15:56: outside of the state of California.

00:15:57: It's for like three thousand people and when I always I don't know fifteen.

00:16:01: And then I sang at The House of Blues a couple times in Hollywood with the band and um...I just did their backups but it was fun!

00:16:10: I enjoyed it.

00:16:11: i enjoyed performing But uh..then you know my life just took a different path than when I adopted my kids.

00:16:18: So, it kind of hung up any of the side geeks that i would do and dove head first into motherhood but still enjoy it!

00:16:27: I like going out to karaoke with friends every once in awhile.

00:16:33: It's definitely something...I wouldn't so much as call it a hobby But you know what?

00:16:41: I'll sing while cooking or cleaning sing when I'm just, you know messing around but Just with the passion that you see what people put into actually developing their musical careers.

00:16:54: I would never want to suggest That many were near that lane like People who are really pursuing that passion or Are just the dedication?

00:17:03: The blood this wet.

00:17:04: it's here is a sleepless night.

00:17:06: I am not that So impressed and proud of people who are.

00:17:12: I just, uh...I guess i can call it a recreational singer.

00:17:17: Like saying for one of my friend's weddings at her request stuff like that.

00:17:20: nothing crazy!

00:17:31: Like, if I'm singing along to Christina Aguilera—I sound like Christina Aguliera.

00:17:44: If i'm singin' along to Pink... I sound like Pink!

00:17:46: —if i'm singing around to Kylie Minogue… I sound kind of like Kylie Minogue.

00:17:49: It's adding my own voice?

00:17:56: Isn't really something- Maybe it is because I've never written a song, to be honest.

00:18:01: So all the songs that I know in my head are what they should sound like versus What would sounds like when I had written them.

00:18:11: Could you...?

00:18:13: Sing, like you say.

00:18:15: You sound like them could use sing a pink song with Christina Aguilera voice?

00:18:20: Like would you change that?

00:18:23: maybe if That Would Be A stretch in my brain But Maybe I don't know.

00:18:32: i think i'm such a literal person That I In My Brain I've Decided That's what that Song Sounds like because that is the way I heard it And I've got a pretty good memory, so... ...I don't know if there would just be like a computer error in my head that says no.

00:18:52: That's not how this song sounds!

00:18:54: That's

00:18:55: wrong.".

00:18:56: You never went into songwriting?

00:18:58: Like why-why

00:18:59: not?".

00:19:00: Oh.

00:19:01: Um.. I don't-I just don't think i have the chops for it.

00:19:05: I think songwriters are brilliant.

00:19:09: It's just NOT A TALENT I DON'T THINK that I have, I don't know what type of talent looks like.

00:19:18: Um...I've never felt the pull to write something down ...that i would want to put a melody too.

00:19:31: So you know..i know there's so many beautiful and wonderful musicians.

00:19:36: it just kind of flows for them even if they get writer's vlog or go through a phase where maybe nothing new is coming to them.

00:19:43: There's just something inherently creative about these people and I would honestly say like, i would feel like an imposter to suggest that I have that same sort of talent?

00:19:56: I kind of think of myself as musically adjacent.

00:19:59: okay...I enjoy it very much!

00:20:02: I've had some very cool run-ins with it.

00:20:05: um..i've had my very limited experience with it personally but that I've appreciated and enjoyed.

00:20:15: I guess, more of a spectator than a creator?

00:20:20: I would love to go in there like what i'm hearing is... Sorry!

00:20:35: I am trying find the right way to get into it.

00:20:39: Is It That There Seems To Be A Disbalance Between what your skill level perception of yourself is, and what you feel songwriters do.

00:20:54: And how good they are.

00:20:57: at least that's how you explain it?

00:21:01: Did I pick up on that correctly?

00:21:04: maybe i just i've actually witnessed a songwriting workshop.

00:21:12: um i don't know when you want to jump into the hold Dreamcatcher side of things but it was when I was working at the hotel.

00:21:21: I was the conference service manager for a dream catcher events program and artists were hosting a songwriting workshop, The Hotel where I worked And there was probably Seventy-five people in this workshop and they were broken up into groups and by the end of a couple hours of sessions Everyone had written something whether it was lyrics or a new melody, or something.

00:21:49: And as I'm watching this unfold... ...I thought what would i have accomplished in this amount of time?

00:21:59: and I feel like my papers would've been blank!

00:22:01: Like I might've come up with a title maybe but just the way in which everyone tapped into this creative stream sort-of simultaneously felt is though They had the password to a secret realm and I was The Doorkeeper.

00:22:25: And it was still A very cool place To be but It just...and that's okay, i never really Had an ambition to Be a songwriter But..i don't know That if i Really put my mind too It would be something in My wheelhouse.

00:22:40: I think that um...I can almost certainly say for sure that I don't believe you.

00:22:50: Well, thank you!

00:22:53: You know it's...I don't trust myself in that way.

00:22:58: Maybe do you write songs?

00:23:05: Not like a typical songwriter would.. I produce music and I dabble around with harmony mostly electronic.

00:23:18: that I did.

00:23:19: I wrote a lot of lyrics in the last years, which because i can't sing at all!

00:23:27: I didn't really put a melody to it... I had some thing in my mind but.. But what you feel from your part is I don't think that, like the perception you have and how to speak about yourself.

00:23:55: Of course we do not need a songwriter but there is some gap between what i think your capable of or maybe can or cannot do because it's just the violin part from this Baba O'Reilly song and what it did to you.

00:24:21: I cannot see that you are somehow disconnected from the realm, which we talked about... That you don't have a key?

00:24:28: You do have one but maybe it's just something you distance yourself with for some reason because ... And when i saw this imbalance ,that is why i mentioned it.. Maybe someone else who writes songs on a pedestal You know, that you maybe in your perception don't see for yourself or something like that.

00:24:54: And I want to challenge that.

00:24:56: so... and i don't have say-that-you-have-to write a song where I'm just saying I wanted to challenge it.

00:25:02: Well, I appreciate that!

00:25:03: Um..and

00:25:04: y'know That's why we do these things right?That's Why We Have These Conversations To Open Doors With Passports Or Keys.

00:25:11: So it is something I will definitely mull over.

00:25:13: You know, I really respect your opinion when it comes to music having had the chance to watch you work and just watch how you approach things in ways i've never seen done before And I think I can speak for more than one person When I say that... ...I have never seen what you were able to accomplish ever In such a short amount of time.

00:25:33: Um so I will

00:25:35: ask

00:25:36: some thoughts because It's coming from you!

00:25:42: Yeah, I mean do that please.

00:25:46: Don't you?

00:25:46: So for example there were some people on the podcast and we usually not usually but For some people it comes up this how to tap into This?

00:25:59: Some People call It a stream.

00:26:01: You Call The realm Some People Called Like A Frequency And Then There Was Drew Said Its like Just The ideas are floating around in the air and you just grab them.

00:26:16: Ash said that her way of songwriting is she and Drew, they have over seven hundred voice memos on their phone.

00:26:25: And um She just sings in the shower and there's suddenly a melody running through here.

00:26:33: Don't you sometimes some?

00:26:37: Especially I feel if you can sing That there something like Suddenly you're humming something that you don't even know it comes from or something like That.

00:26:47: so, it's funny when I hum anything.

00:26:49: It's usually the song from pans labyrinth.

00:26:53: I Don't if you've ever seen that movie.

00:26:55: I did.

00:26:56: Yeah, I bet that melody is always always always in my head and i have My Invisalign in right now where I would hum it probably won't come out Right?

00:27:05: Let's do this That one Always.

00:27:13: But as far as that creativity goes, I do have flashes of thoughts but it's always for stories.

00:27:22: It's not from music.

00:27:25: so my husband is an aspiring actor and he has kind of tried his hand at writing a few times And then i'll just butt in say well what if went this way?

00:27:43: Oh, he was the killer.

00:27:44: That person's not even the sister that's not their kid.

00:27:48: like I've already Untangled it because when i have ideas?

00:27:54: I try and tangle them as much As possible And then work backwards.

00:27:58: but It is more of Like um Characters or people Or or mysteries But Not When it comes to music.

00:28:08: when it Comes To Music I do.

00:28:10: I hit this roadblock Down to where if I come up with a story in my head, I can come up what soundtrack it should have.

00:28:21: But then when I try and pinpoint the sound track It's almost like i've lost the audio.

00:28:27: That is

00:28:28: interesting.

00:28:33: When my creativity was formed someone forgot to add The Last Drop And its out there but didn't get mixed all the

00:28:42: way.

00:28:46: Now, at least I know that my comment wasn't in vain because there was some merit to it.

00:28:56: Because you seem to have some creative connection or something.

00:29:03: but maybe this is true and not music in the first place... ...but a story which is for me as grand and big emotionally charged as music can be.

00:29:19: So, I think story is also an incredible part of where creativity has... What isn't a story?

00:29:28: Let's say like that!

00:29:30: Everything is a story.

00:29:31: so even the corporate branding corporation, Capitalism Parts are still stories that maybe I was digging in the wrong hole, you know?

00:29:50: But I'm sure there is some area that your really good connected to.

00:29:57: Well i think we just actually figured it out together and a whopping half hour if... If I am able to creatively express myself in story And do acknowledge That It Needs To Have A Soundtrack.

00:30:10: What's Just Stopped Me From Creating That?

00:30:13: And I hadn't considered that before.

00:30:15: So I will consider that now and maybe that would be my Entrance fee into the realm, but i'm looking for so we'll see.

00:30:25: Oh actually get down this is it's look at you in such a short amount of time.

00:30:30: i'm like inspired i have ideas.

00:30:33: This Is not what?

00:30:35: Was anticipating from us And i love That You mentioned drew an ash because i loved them when i met Them.

00:30:39: they're very sweet Very talented um and just What They've Gone on to do recently is incredible.

00:30:47: You know, it's I think just being around people who are so inspirational and who you trust because anyone can tell you like oh Danielle!

00:30:54: You could do this or maybe you could do

00:30:55: that.".

00:30:55: And it's like well thank you...I'm very appreciative of the compliment but when you're talking to people who know what they were talking about its kind a little bit more like Danielle let's see what you got in there?

00:31:15: Because when you say there might be a soundtrack to it, but you lost the audio.

00:31:23: Do you have the emotion of this soundtrack?

00:31:26: Yes!

00:31:28: Yeah... So maybe that is your connection with translation into audio That the emotions are catalysts for becoming audio.

00:31:43: I'm gonna watch this podcast back probably like fifty times.

00:31:47: and what if i hit roadblock Just to keep note.

00:31:50: That's a really good point and I think you're right just from the perspective of When you can't create something original.

00:31:59: Well, not when.

00:32:01: yet when I can't crate something original that's kind of like okay end-of-the-road Can't do it.

00:32:07: Sort of quitter mentality if you will But just kind of assigning myself A level of capability or not?

00:32:16: And that um has been an ongoing thing.

00:32:20: So I will definitely take that into consideration.

00:32:24: I love it, i'm so happy!

00:32:29: Another question about singing... It seems you're at least confident enough to sing in front of people and have background vocals.

00:32:41: Why didn't you join in and hide away?

00:32:44: I

00:32:47: was very, very busy at Hideaway.

00:32:53: Okay okay um i loved hearing it...I love seeing it!

00:32:57: I take what I do.

00:32:59: so should we jump into this now the hideaway dream?

00:33:02: Oh

00:33:02: we can but maybe introduce it by who you are and what to do..maybe particularly hide away....i want to get also in your general life What you because u had a special role in hideaway compared to everyone else on the podcast so far.

00:33:22: Yeah, So I just sort of as a disclaimer.

00:33:26: i freelance for dreamcatcher.

00:33:28: so- Uh, I had worked with Dreamcatcher once before but they were my client as you know As referenced at the hotel.

00:33:45: Um i was lucky enough to work With them on tomorello At the hotel where i worked.

00:33:51: They did such an incredible job.

00:33:53: It was the first conference i ever managed After having managed for years That required Such Specific needs For their campers.

00:34:05: so i had never had to have guitars and amps, drum kits set up in our event spaces.

00:34:14: I had never had to oversee jam session rooms or you know just.

00:34:19: it was so specific um... And different!

00:34:23: So yeah as Dreamcatcher has grown which kudos for them.

00:34:27: they're incredible.

00:34:28: They kind of needed to fill-in some positions at some of the camps.

00:34:32: Just make sure everything ran.

00:34:34: how was brought in for the hideaway.

00:34:38: And it was... The largest camp I had done.

00:34:47: as far as music camps go, I did work on John Petrucci with them from the Dreamcatcher side and the hideaways you know is new.

00:35:00: It's kind of this camp.

00:35:04: There were quite a few campers and quite a few classes, very talented musicians everywhere.

00:35:11: And it was non-stop from six AM to two AM with making sure breakfast was out in ready an accurate... ...and classrooms were set up and teachers had the materials they needed.. ..and then it was making sure lunch was setup and ready And the rooms were being cleaned and available, turned and restructured depending on what was needed.

00:35:41: Then adding in really cool things like the dance parties that we added into the carriage house recording sessions for some of our very talented campers who came up... Yeah

00:35:54: then there's suddenly people want to record at a ballroom something like this

00:35:59: You know just on-the-fly But only because there was a very, very interesting camper who had quite the setup of an electric tambourine that... Was definitely not something I had on my bingo card.

00:36:18: were these very interesting and unique experiences.

00:36:21: The morning wiggles where huge hit.

00:36:26: And then the space itself though you know storied in so much history and gorgeous was just huge.

00:36:34: So it's like if there is someone who has, you know maybe a concern about their guest room or whatever the case may be then I'm needed at the front lobby.

00:36:43: but than If There Is A Camper Who Was A Concern Or A Need Or Request To Maybe Check An Instrument In The Main Event Space Then i gotta get back down to main event space.

00:36:54: so It Was Um...The Dreamcatcher Team Worked Pretty Like..I don't Know If You Had A Chance.

00:37:01: You met Jane.

00:37:02: She was incredible, she was our faculty liaison and then Amanda and Alex.

00:37:08: we sort of just joined together to do what we could.

00:37:13: in my whole mantra always with events is What can I do?

00:37:19: In every interaction that will make this event something that someone would say wow That was everything i could have wanted.

00:37:30: And that's kind of the way I just try with managing or running events.

00:37:36: Yeah, I thought...I think everybody probably am speaking for myself but i'm sure a lot people would join in to.

00:37:45: what im saying is it was managed really well and then you could see effort from everyone involved if there were concerns or anything that we're taking seriously and all of these things.

00:38:03: I mean, i don't know many by name but um Alex and Bill... i know this two but

00:38:12: um

00:38:13: Billy yeah so you could really see also how much passion they was..i really love that part because it's actually working in the event space for eleven, twelve years and I was on site a lot as well.

00:38:30: Usually stagehand or something like that.

00:38:32: but i did the creative concepts for events and did a lot of... usually huge brands like Germany Brands like Siemens and Adidas all these brands.

00:38:47: The people organising events are usually passionate But it always helps when what you're organising is something that you like.

00:38:57: Because for some brands, when we did the event it's... I don't care about what was one thing?

00:39:11: That really people actually didn't want to do with a new vaping pen or anything and they're just making money.

00:39:23: Have an event for that.

00:39:24: So people were very morally like confused on how to deal with this event and I can so see That oh my god, there's such a great audience Such a great People.

00:39:36: Jacob is the best.

00:39:38: faculty is nice Like it must have been so much fun as well.

00:39:43: It was certainly a labor of love.

00:39:46: Billy in his own right isn't extremely talented musician And he's been working, like the main camp guy for Dreamcatcher.

00:39:56: There was also Chris DiSneros who wasn't on site.

00:39:59: Billy

00:40:00: is one that did the announcements right?

00:40:03: Yeah!

00:40:04: He a very talented musician and Amanda unfortunately got sick I want to say in day two or three.

00:40:17: She's a director of operations and her brain, the way it works is so fascinating.

00:40:24: Not only she on-site and present in helping with everything logistically onsite but she also in charge all the operation logistics for other camps that are either happening or will happen.

00:40:38: And then you know people who were emailing questions about previous camps.

00:40:42: I don't how she isn't uptime today But yeah, I will say when you're working with people that all love the same thing.

00:40:53: Like I didn't have... You know?

00:41:16: That had not happened.

00:41:20: When I worked at the hotel, we made it a point to even print out photos of our VIPs so that every person from valet to front desk when you walk in... Good morning Philip!

00:41:32: Thank You for joining us and ...that just kind of became part of the way that i operate.

00:41:37: And uh In my opinion everybody who was there Just the amount of travel and costs and dedication, they're all VIPs.

00:41:49: So why shouldn't I know their names?

00:41:51: And it was just really real... Nobody was like difficult not-I don't know that i would admit if anybody was!

00:41:58: Like.

00:41:59: I might say something like you know.

00:42:00: some were nicer than others but everybody was just Really great and just happy to be there and so easy To like.

00:42:10: Just so easy to want too.

00:42:13: just go above and beyond because it was like, why not?

00:42:16: They're the nicest coolest people.

00:42:21: There were the fire alarms so...

00:42:24: Oh yeah!

00:42:26: Yeah good I mean there's something that you couldn't uh.. That wasn't in your responsibility right?

00:42:32: You could do anything about it.

00:42:34: Fifteen years of event experience i have never had one fire alarm.

00:42:40: we had two.

00:42:43: It came unglued.

00:42:47: I actually try not to think about the fire alarms, but ironically you know... The first one which i think may have been announced was it was confirmed that maybe someone on the camper side didn't make the best of choices.

00:43:01: all good done and then the second time It was like fifty-fifty.

00:43:15: So, are we even now?

00:43:17: That happened because of this and then that's happen because of the ad but... We actually worked really closely with The Fire Marshal after that to make sure the system online is a hundred percent functional Because if had one more fire alarm I would just take a nose dive off stage Like i could not tolerate evacuating This group One more time.

00:43:40: But everybody has such Just was so cool about it.

00:43:44: Nobody was yelling at me, nobody was freaking out on me.

00:43:52: Jacob was just funny about it.

00:43:56: I heard he had everybody like rocking out to the rhythm of it which you know.

00:44:01: Thank You Jacob.

00:44:02: That's a difference between organizing and being a participant because really...I don't think anyone Like if you bring it up, they remember.

00:44:15: but I don't think anyone would really remembered like oh my god That was so awful.

00:44:19: It was the worst and he destroyed my experience.

00:44:22: So its...I Don't think it's attached emotionally with something really bad or crazy like Angry thing is like furious thing?

00:44:33: Its more like Oh yeah that happened.

00:44:35: It Was funny And we then just got back in.

00:44:38: so i think from The participants part Perceived very differently.

00:44:44: Well, I'm very glad and we certainly had some curveballs.

00:44:52: Um i don't know if you remembered that it rained

00:44:57: But did rain?

00:44:59: It rained.

00:45:00: um oh yeah one evening right.

00:45:02: Yeah during was mostly during sessions but we had all those gorgeous decorations outside

00:45:10: And

00:45:11: well upon myself because we had a guest who needed ADA access to all the spaces.

00:45:19: And so I made it my personal... What

00:45:21: is ADA?

00:45:23: So accessibility with a wheelchair, or any other assistance-based device for mobility.

00:45:35: and

00:45:37: It's an old property but i knew from What I was briefed with that all spaces should have been ADA accessible.

00:45:46: I just wanted to make sure I personally knew what those pathways were.

00:45:52: So, I spent a lot of time Just completely invading the hotel people's space they were lovely about.

00:45:57: it Was like i'm coming back here?

00:45:58: I know my way around The Back-of-House To find everything.

00:46:01: well during My journeys Of invading their space I found All these tarps.

00:46:07: so when It started raining I just asked my contact with the teller was like, hey can I borrow your tarps?

00:46:12: And she's just like.

00:46:12: i don't know if we have any...I could look and said no.

00:46:15: No where right there!

00:46:16: I think go get them myself.

00:46:17: I know what closet they're

00:46:18: in.".

00:46:19: They were very gracious to let us use them so that all of our outside decorations would be covered in time because mostly made out paper or wood.

00:46:30: but you are able Invade the heck out of an other spaces back up house and as you know from doing events that comes with building great relationships.

00:46:46: With the property which starts, You know at the contract level

00:46:51: yeah?

00:46:52: No just the process.

00:46:53: Shayla who was not on property she is about to give birth her beautiful baby boy.

00:46:59: She does all of the the contracting for the hotel in the room blocks And she's brilliant.

00:47:06: All of that groundwork.

00:47:07: That was laid by the dreamcatcher team before I showed up made it so i had that like.

00:47:13: Hey guys, i'm just...I knew where the chef's office was and The ground floor?

00:47:17: Like I would just go back there And get in the elevator and go down talk to him if needed something.

00:47:23: But those relationships Work.

00:47:27: critical for a group like this because you have be able stay flexible with Three hundred creative minds.

00:47:37: It's not going to be a rigid black and white, you know there has to be space

00:47:42: and

00:47:43: Ability to accommodate things is sort of ebb-and-flow.

00:47:49: How much?

00:47:50: was pre how much plan pre planned schedule Was actually changed in the maybe like?

00:48:01: I don't know.

00:48:02: for example I'm just remembering the part where Jacob showed his album, like Sneak Peek for the first time ever.

00:48:12: Was that already in a schedule before the event?

00:48:16: or did jacob just because i can really imagine him being like oh maybe i can show them my album and then suddenly you have to shift around?

00:48:26: Or how was that part?

00:48:30: So I didn't have much contact with the faculty, so I can say for certain.

00:48:36: But what i do know is Jacob had originally really wanted to it but seemed as though It might not be feasible.

00:48:49: in a way.

00:48:51: that was the goal from my just side of logistics, had the understanding that it might not have been possible for reasons that were not shared with me.

00:49:05: But then... It was important to him and he really wanted to share at this specific place in this time these specific people.

00:49:13: And whatever what may have been a hold up I don't know What that red tape May Have Been?

00:49:20: It Was A Fingers Crossed Like fingers crossed to make it.

00:49:25: there was a gap in the schedule with a big like.

00:49:28: we knew what that gap was intended for but also We had a backup For that amount of time if It weren't able to happen.

00:49:39: and then you helped.

00:49:41: You were lovely.

00:49:42: we um, We had to take away every device.

00:49:46: four hundred people In about thirty minutes.

00:49:50: Yeah I saw your drowning.

00:49:53: It was well, fortunately we had a staff member get really sick and she couldn't be there.

00:50:00: Yeah.

00:50:03: You know We got the system in place and then it started moving again.

00:50:06: Thank you for your help.

00:50:09: Alex had helped to.

00:50:10: I think it wasn't Mike that helped Alex.

00:50:12: um yeah one of the mics There's three.

00:50:15: uh And We Got it Done?

00:50:24: So crazy, I've never witnessed anything like that happen.

00:50:29: Have you ever listened to a release?

00:50:31: No no...I mean i have been part of sneak previews for as mentioned and sometimes it was Audi the car company models that weren't released yet even to the public, like for internal marketing CEOs or something.

00:51:04: There is a special room completely black except of course for lighting and there you have to... Even CEOs everybody has to give their device but Maybe ten people?

00:51:21: That's a completely different thing.

00:51:23: Yeah, yeah It was definitely worth the undertaking for sure

00:51:34: But you weren't in there... You didn't listen right?

00:51:36: You were outside.

00:51:38: I was outside!

00:51:40: I did pop-in just because i am fanatical about making sure that all exits are not locked And I hate when staff doesn't, like hotel stuff either isn't able or they don't have the time.

00:52:00: Or they're not sure when breaks happen because you know sometimes things go over or stop short...I'll just go in and bust all of those cups or water bottles.

00:52:07: that makes me crazy!

00:52:09: So i popped-in to make sure all safety and security exits were done even though we had staff there who was more than capable doing it.

00:52:20: I was able to hear some of it.

00:52:46: Yeah, you know it's a little hard when it's like oh my gosh they're having so much fun.

00:52:50: That sounds great but that is the job You have to...you get to hear from outside and enjoy it But I'm not there as guest.

00:53:02: i am available for guests And thats perfectly fine with me.

00:53:09: How much did?

00:53:11: because faculty except for Barak And maybe June, I think they were the only ones who sometimes mingled with campers.

00:53:23: Barak was there like he didn't even know if we saw his room from inside and it was around all of time.

00:53:32: but do you how much was translated?

00:53:36: what is happening outside of rooms?

00:53:45: Did they know what was going on or because there were usually in their own space, right?

00:53:51: They knew.

00:53:52: So it just depended of the way that they operated

00:53:57: and

00:53:58: again Jane was their liaison.

00:54:00: so I didn't really have a ton except for with Barak who would often sit behind the table with me And you can always find him at the dining room with everybody.

00:54:08: Some faculty definitely used their time outside teaching to work on fine-tuning their next lessons, because they were kind of adapting it as they went based on how the last lesson went.

00:54:23: So if it was Dodie I saw her many times you know she would do a lesson and then she'd go.

00:54:34: okay well everything i was planning on doing next...I can tweak that improve that shift that to better suit where these people are.

00:54:44: And there were a few teachers that just kind of taught and then said, okay I'm going to make some changes now because i see where these people are.

00:54:56: And, you know they did too but I think theirs was just a little bit more of like.

00:55:18: the what-they were teaching Was so much different than what Barak was teaching that i could see That they would find...that They wouldn't want to make some Little changes.

00:55:26: Just To Make it More Personalized.

00:55:30: Barak is just A powerhouse You Know.

00:55:32: he taught Jacob.

00:55:33: yeah

00:55:34: Yeah mean also He's a teacher and he Did this lesson probably a hundred times?

00:55:40: It felt Like I'm not sure if you can confirm that But It felt like the master classes that were from or sessions, I always confuse their wordings.

00:55:50: The sessions...

00:55:51: Correct!

00:55:52: All of those are correct?

00:55:53: Yeah some of them where probably more-or less created for first time because they thought about what am i going to do with these people?

00:56:06: so at least from Dodie she said in class She just came up with it, like asking Jacob what she should do.

00:56:18: And so I think that there's also a difference to Barak because he can't start talking for ten hours without a break because he is just the brain you know?

00:56:33: He did all this forever!

00:56:42: The faculty had a chance to meet all of them, you know at least once.

00:56:46: So talented and so just wanting to share their knowledge... Their approaches were all admittedly different but it was interesting because the way that these camps work with Dreamcatcher is.

00:57:01: there's the main Jacob Collier of it all.

00:57:09: from my understanding is this kind of a collaboration between who the Jacob Collier wants, and then Dreamcatcher works together with that.

00:57:19: Again because I only freelance for Dreamcatcher.

00:57:21: i'm not completely sure how it's all hashed out but it does seem like Jacob had his starting lineup of ideas in whom he'd like to work within.

00:57:32: you would like see there And It was such a cohesive faculty The way that they were able to hit drums, guitar vocals songwriting the Wiggles just even with Susie's classes.

00:57:50: We're amazing and she is so creative And she's honestly really funny too was Really?

00:58:00: Just a testament to the kind of people but Jacob surrounds himself with.

00:58:06: we didn't have any like I don't.

00:58:10: We didn't have any divas, if you will.

00:58:13: Not in the faculty.

00:58:14: Yeah.

00:58:15: Numbers and when we've reached a certain level of celebrity honestly I wouldn't have been offended!

00:58:22: I would have kind-of expected it like who's going to make my life more challenging today?

00:58:27: And i don't have a problem with challenges just something to overcome.

00:58:31: but everybody was just really easy to work with.

00:58:35: um yeah...I was expecting some type of like diva behavior from someone, but literally no one.

00:58:46: I don't have any juicy stories to tell because they are all really

00:58:50: great.".

00:58:52: What was your favorite experiences that you still maybe sometimes think about or pops into your mind?

00:59:02: Or something happened behind the scenes and just something everybody experienced... What were some of your favorites?

00:59:11: Your recording session.

00:59:16: As soon as that question is asked to me, it's still clear what you did... It was the recording session that you did with a group and if I remember correctly That idea was kind-of born on day one or two Of wanting to get together And record A version of this song In way i had never seen done.

00:59:40: I was fortunate because i got to sit in for the listening session and just watching all of you work, can watch a new directed.

00:59:48: And watching this camera slash audio recording attached to this.

00:59:54: what i could only describe is like a mannequin head with ears that would speakers of them and this waltz around the device to create this.

01:00:06: and then i remember directing him to move forward and move back And I don't know how you were able to visualize, How it was going to turn out.

01:00:15: Like how do no when to tell them to walk faster or walk slower?

01:00:19: Or these people jump in and then these people jumped out but after hearing the final product which you had done like fifteen seconds It seemed to me Really remarkable!

01:00:33: And i remember saying To my teammates that this is the spirit of what Highway was intended for.

01:00:42: Of course, it was there to witness the brilliance that is Jacob Collier—that's a given!

01:00:47: Of course it was to learn new things from these brilliant faculty members —a-given.

01:00:53: But to create... ...was something that was a hope?

01:00:58: A

01:00:58: dream?!

01:00:59: And to see it happen in real time was really remarkable.

01:01:04: And then to have that as a takeaway, like a tangible memory... ...was very special and I'm so glad you did it!

01:01:14: Oh thank-you so much.

01:01:16: That's very nice to hear.

01:01:18: Very glad to hear because i always had the thought of where it comes from but probably somewhere ingrained in in something that I have to develop or am developing since the last years very much.

01:01:40: But when i was young, I always had an idea of if I asked for some thing that... ...I want to do and it involves other people?

01:01:51: I maybe waste their time just to polite but not because they actually also would like And I've been carrying that for such a long time.

01:02:10: That was especially one of these memories or ideas... ...that i have been thinking about in my head, not fifteen but ten to twelve years or something like that To have this type of recording and since I don't ever have access to musicians-I couldn't.

01:02:34: And then there was, I mean Lalo with the harp and There were people with perfect pitch and guitarists and Singers.

01:02:44: It actually it was formed on day one But it was only because Elizabeth maybe you know her she's from LA as well She told me we weren't in the pool and she said like You should... Because i told what always wanted to do You should do it.

01:03:03: Just so many people.

01:03:05: I'm sure they would be glad to help and, um... And maybe that was the push i needed to pursue It.

01:03:13: So then how is turned out?

01:03:16: I am so amazed That actually People were willing To first of all Be part Of it.

01:03:23: Then There's a team like Dreamcatcher & you Who are pushing for it that it actually happened.

01:03:33: So yeah, I consider myself very... How do you say?

01:03:39: Very blessed to have been able to do that.

01:03:44: Yeah!

01:03:44: That was a treasured memory as well- that Becker came in twice and then she brought her child to listen in.

01:03:52: That was so cool.

01:03:54: She's... Her kids oh my gosh.

01:03:57: So cute.

01:03:58: Her husband such a gem.

01:04:04: Again, I can't say enough about all the faculty.

01:04:06: What's funny.

01:04:07: and a person that I haven't mentioned yet is Danny.

01:04:09: he owns Dreamcatcher.

01:04:12: He was there...he was the one with dogs?

01:04:15: Oh yeah!

01:04:16: Yeah!

01:04:18: There..He lives in New York i believe so he was able to kind of come in quite a bit And just keep a bird's eye view on things....and this dreamcatcher is his baby His dream.

01:04:32: He's the one that started it and grew it, invested so much of his time and energy into it.

01:04:38: And then as all great leaders do found the right people to put in place to execute these events to his expectation

01:04:45: level.".

01:04:47: And he makes it a point to come out.

01:04:48: too many of the camps is he's able to... Each program starts with him!

01:04:54: He's The One That Starts Laying the Groundwork Of All of the Contracts.

01:04:59: Shayla like I've mentioned her She's huge on executing and everyone on the team, but I guess that's another one of my favorite memories just seeing Billy in his element because he such a talent.

01:05:11: And seeing um Just the joy That everyone had especially In those evening jam sessions.

01:05:22: just musicians doing what musicians do best?

01:05:26: Everyone got along But everyone.

01:05:30: there were no egos.

01:05:32: There was like.

01:05:34: I didn't have to settle any squabbles Which can happen with this many people.

01:05:38: usually you know what the program of this magnitude?

01:05:41: You would anticipate that maybe they're some little hiccups With, you know just getting along.

01:05:47: none of it.

01:05:49: It was like iIwas at a family reunion but it Was nobody who knew each other and I think That's a just a testament To The type of fan that you are if you're a fan of Jacob Collier.

01:06:02: Yeah, mm-hmm

01:06:05: and it's um.

01:06:07: You know like I've said uh i mentioned the Facebook page still being so alive And Still all of the friendships that have been formed?

01:06:20: I've seen people travel together After this and you know go visit one another It's just some.

01:06:28: It's what you hope to create by creating something like the hideaway, but it certainly Like the wildest dream to see what its evolved into.

01:06:38: Yeah And I think sorry ask again.

01:06:44: What was

01:06:46: my favorite?

01:06:49: Oh My god, that's so.

01:06:51: it's all hard.

01:06:53: I can almost say everything because and I think I slept as little as you Although my schedule was different, I started because i don't eat breakfast.

01:07:06: I started maybe eight thirty before the first masterclass and brushed my teeth so then jumped to the master class And then um...and Then I think yeah..I went on three in the morning four-in-the-morning five-in–the-morning For example that recording?

01:07:23: I wanted it make it I wanted to edit it and produce as fast as I could Because felt that I didn't want it to be like something, two months later you get in your inbox.

01:07:39: I don't know.

01:08:00: What was my favorite memory?

01:08:05: The one evening, which day it was but the one where there were... I always call under-the-arch this entry part Where that's most lively activity.

01:08:24: Blake was doing a performance in Alex and Toby did some improvisation, we had some chanting.

01:08:32: I don't know what it's even called like ritualistic way of chanting?

01:08:43: Sure i'm not doing it justice but this evening probably where I felt that actually It's not about Jacob and the master classes, all of this.

01:08:57: Yes it is about that but here I feel... This for me is home!

01:09:04: I found my people, I've found my tribe, I have found family you know?

01:09:08: That really felt like....I had this analogy in a podcast at some point because i didn't have access to many musicians In my life..it felt as if I was some Tiger Captain Nuzoo.

01:09:24: And then suddenly, I mean tigers are lonely creatures.

01:09:28: Probably it's not working with the analogy but... Suddenly i'm in a jungle and probably an ape you know?

01:09:33: That is probably working better!

01:09:34: I was somewhere in a zoo some ape.. ...and then suddenly found my family in the jungle.

01:09:40: we were just swinging from tree to tree and suddenly everything is green and lush.

01:09:46: that how had felt and I suddenly realized-I have so many epiphanies about this as well because I totally agree, with every fan culture it would have been different.

01:10:01: Every artist who came that come is a different fan culture than the people are pulled in.

01:10:09: which kind of people?

01:10:13: But i think its very much a testament to Jacob and how he is.

01:10:24: People to come.

01:10:25: I don't know if that's English, but the people that came came because of him and their special.

01:10:30: I think they're specially tuned to what he stands for.

01:10:34: yes And that's why I feel The energy was how it was?

01:10:39: Yeah one last part want to say about this and I feel its also be especially because Jacob is someone who is so exceptionally maybe unique in a way that Understands the topic conveys, inspires but then leaves all this space for everyone else to fill it.

01:11:04: Like he has no want know like He doesn't want you do a certain way or oh I explained it differently You have to change your opinion.

01:11:16: It's really just.

01:11:17: This is what i learned.

01:11:18: and now Just Do whatever you Want with it And everything Is right is so deeply ingrained in this DNA that I feel like, That's what people also really felt and took from it.

01:11:46: I know that every single person I spoke with just came from such a different background.

01:12:04: Just, From who they are not even musically.

01:12:08: and then of course the musical differences.

01:12:11: but...just to see how all of that was sort-of part their story.

01:12:18: it created this one great finale Was really impressive!

01:12:25: I don't remember being tired and i was a little scared.

01:12:31: I said, I was rusty...I hadn't done.

01:12:33: events then took like a six-year hiatus.

01:12:39: um..i totally changed industries!

01:12:40: I would do the occasional wedding for friends bridal shower baby shower just only for friend.

01:12:46: And I would always joke and say okay?

01:12:48: I'll come out of retirement one more time.

01:12:51: and Then when I got the call from dreamcatcher about working with them over this summer last year was a little scared.

01:12:59: I said, what if i don't still have it?

01:13:01: And my friend Chris who wasn't there but he sort of does similar to what Billy does on a you know grander scale.

01:13:09: um It was him that said Danielle this is why do like You Know How To Do This Just Do What You Know.

01:13:22: and uh...I felt Like I Hit The Ground Running But It Was Certainly good to flex some of those muscles that I haven't needed in quite a while.

01:13:32: And, you know getting back to my hotel room at whatever time.

01:13:35: that was because and to be honest i probably could have slept more...I'm just such a control

01:13:41: freak.".

01:13:42: Now it's like no!

01:13:42: I need to personally check on the jam sessions all of them..i need to personally touch base with the kitchen....I need to PERSONALLY walk the ballroom.

01:13:51: make sure its clean.

01:13:53: Did

01:13:53: I?

01:13:54: No we have great team But for my own prerogative, I was like...I'll get to bed when i get too bad because this is the way that I operate.

01:14:04: And it was amazing!

01:14:07: It's so just an honor to be a part of something Like That.

01:14:12: Yeah.. I also remember now When I think about My favorite parts there Is some interesting thing.

01:14:21: There are all these connections that you make and the nice conversations, but also what I sometimes just situations pop into my head.

01:14:32: And i love seeing reactions like people reacting to or seeing the reaction of a person who is experiencing something...and usually i'm bit more in.

01:14:44: uh..i don't know connecting maybe because I came from there, but also because i can always connect with the people who do the event.

01:14:55: Because...i don't know that..I know they have similar interests as me!

01:15:02: There's something that instantly clicks for me and i love seeing their reactions to certain things like when a certain When Jacob says something on stage and can you put up my mic or something like that?

01:15:23: And, You see how the staff reacts to it.

01:15:28: Like there's something unplanned.

01:15:30: Or I was in a back when they listened to this studio Recording for The New Album and seeing also while listening but sometimes peeking at Ben who is next in the control booth and FOH, seeing his reaction or also from people in their audience.

01:15:57: When something crazy happens and Jacob's doing crazy improvisation then people are just amazed and mesmerized by that moment.

01:16:09: I love it!

01:16:12: It was certainly a magical experience.

01:16:18: It remains to be seen, but I did see on Facebook that you are coming into the next hideaway.

01:16:24: Yeah

01:16:25: Very cool!

01:16:27: I was hesitating But i had too...I just had

01:16:32: it.

01:16:32: It will interesting how many repeat Hideaway visitors there and How many first-timers There Will Be?

01:16:38: I know already at least from The facebook group there's eight people saying it And then three more That I Know From Who Didn't Comment on it.

01:16:49: So I guess there's.

01:16:52: my guest would be maybe thirty forty people at least.

01:16:58: Yeah, that'll be interesting

01:17:01: and you don't know if your coming yet?

01:17:04: It is a possibility i will Potentially see in august.

01:17:12: That would be so great.

01:17:14: yeah i have um shared with dreamcatcher.

01:17:18: what You know i can do maybe one program a year just with my job husband and my kids, but more to come on that.

01:17:29: Okay just to fulfill my curiosity you what is your actual job?

01:17:37: because You also mentioned crazy working hours like very early in the morning And I was so curious Like are you a doctor?

01:17:46: In the hospital?

01:17:47: or What are you doing?

01:17:49: no i work for our company.

01:17:50: um But I always joke about this.

01:17:52: if you know who The Company Is it's Very impressive.

01:17:54: If you don't It is the most difficult to explain.

01:17:57: I work for a company called McMaster Car, we are the largest parts distributor in the US.

01:18:04: We actually sell quite a bit too.

01:18:05: companies and Europe.

01:18:07: um i work specifically In the export to Mexico team.

01:18:11: So i'm on our export team that focuses solely On mexico And we started...I personally start at five am To one forty-five pm because there Are time differences throughout mexico?

01:18:25: So when I get in there's already plenty of work for me to do.

01:18:28: They're a great company, they give them great paid time off.

01:18:32: so When i take my vacation from my actual job last year?

01:18:37: I used it To go out and be there with John Petrucci in Vegas with Dreamcatcher And then obviously Jacob in New York and so It just gives Me an opportunity too to Do something that I love to do but as the parent of three kids It's just not feasible for me to do full time.

01:18:58: Yeah, I understand.

01:19:01: Is it something that you would like to do?

01:19:04: Because sometimes in the episodes... ...I also ask about struggles and goals and stuff like this.

01:19:12: so is- Would it be actually your wish too to be in the music industry fulltime or...?

01:19:22: Honestly no!

01:19:26: And the reason is because I am such a type of personality that would head right to burnout.

01:19:34: As i mentioned, I have to oversee everything myself personally.

01:19:37: it's just the way that I tick.

01:19:39: and when I was working at the hotel-I worked there for almost six years before COVID It wasn't uncommon for me to get there at five AM.

01:19:47: Because if my staff can be there to set up?

01:19:55: put up with me rolling in at eight AM and saying, Oh this table's not right.

01:19:59: It shouldn't go right here.

01:20:01: or oh move this.

01:20:02: Or the stage is this it can be done With me on site And then I stay all the way till the cleanup because if my staff could Be there i Can be There?

01:20:11: And it was you know anywhere from.

01:20:14: My minimum day Was ten hours.

01:20:16: my maximum Day was You Know sometimes If i had a program In house thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen Hours.

01:20:25: I don't know how to do it differently.

01:20:29: So, just with my kids being their ages—my oldest at fourteen and twins at thirteen —it is an amazing thing that i love being a part of!

01:20:39: I love keeping those skills sharp... It's not something I could see myself doing full-time unless they were moved out the house… And then maybe?

01:20:53: But even than I think would probably take on a role allows me to not have to be there so many hours in a day.

01:21:01: And the travel, the Dreamcatcher team is all over the world like... All over the United States, Costa Rica, Mexico, Italy.

01:21:12: who knows where they'll be next?

01:21:15: That type of travel just something that you want when your an company like this.

01:21:22: but it's nothing my life with where I'm at and what kids or husband would allow for.

01:21:28: And I have four dogs.

01:21:30: So... Four dogs?

01:21:31: Okay, i only-i only have one and im getting next week.

01:21:36: i'm even getting a tiny puppy.

01:21:39: You're getting

01:21:40: a puppy!

01:21:41: Yeah we do.

01:21:42: That's so exciting.

01:21:44: This is just uh tiny picture.

01:21:50: Do you have any name picked out?

01:21:51: George?

01:21:53: George?

01:21:54: All our names are from the Harry Potter universe.

01:21:58: Okay.

01:21:58: So

01:22:00: his name is, at first dog's name is Harry and this one is George like George Weasley.

01:22:07: naturally do you know what house your in?

01:22:11: Me my house.

01:22:12: I

01:22:14: think I knew it i think Ravenclaw but maybe also we had some technical issues And now were back.

01:22:27: I just thought for final thoughts, which house are you in Harry Potter?

01:22:35: Ravenclaw.

01:22:35: Oh we're the same house then!

01:22:40: For anyone who hasn't done it and is a harry potter fan i strongly suggest going on Pottermore.com & getting sorted so you can officially claim your house.

01:22:49: yeah there's actually one Open last question that I have for you and it's like what is maybe something that do want to talk about?

01:22:59: And we didn't or some Something you want to say That i didn't ask.

01:23:04: I mean, I have of course a lot of questions but with the technical issues I think We cannot Over stress The time But Maybe there's something that You Want To Share.

01:23:15: Yeah, I Think my final Thought Especially For the listeners Of A podcast Like This Is The State of the World Right Now Is Scary And there is a lot of hate and negativity,

01:23:29: and

01:23:30: fear.

01:23:32: Just really tragic things happening... People like the musicians that will inevitably listen to this.

01:23:40: I encourage all you continue spreading your love and positivity using platforms To build each other up and force light back into all of the darkness because it's bright lights, like people that perform music.

01:23:58: That can help change lives!

01:24:01: Wow...that is a crazy nice statement and I'd leave you with that.

01:24:08: Thank-you so much Danielle.

01:24:09: Um..I hope we see each other in Italy?

01:24:12: That would be so, SO nice.

01:24:15: I know!

01:24:16: Yeah…and i wish you great day and hopefully to see you soon.

01:24:21: Yes, same to you and if you ever need a part two.

01:24:23: If we've got more questions I will find the laptop that works all right things.